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Orbital Battle by LordDoomhammer Orbital Battle by LordDoomhammer
I finally decided my never to be finished (well, I would finish it, but my computer quits^^) Warhammer 40.000 Space Marine Battle Barge to be used within a picture! And as a huge Capital Ship as this one, never goes out alone I kit-bashed a Frigate kind of ship to give it company :)
The picture depicts a bettle within a planets atmosphere, between forces of the Imperium and an unseen enemy among the clouds. I really tried to show the size of that damn thing, but am not sure whether I succeeded.
Ships made in Google SketchUp, rendered in Kerkythea. Rest made in Photoshop.

The story goes on here:


Hope you like it! :)
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porcrop Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, thank you (I guess) :D
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porcrop Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014
>_<
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Nils-Iver Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Excellent scene!
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :)
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PoshPete117 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013
OMG!!!
You're a halo fan, warhammer 40,000 fan AND A BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC FAN!
dude........you're ace =D

Space marines vs......orks I can only guess o.O
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha, thanks! :D
And yes, the orks get a beating here ;)
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PoshPete117 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013
ace XD
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BaseDeltaZero Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
It's amazing, of course, and I couldn't even begin to criticize the artistry, but since you mentioned scale...

Considering the madness that is 40k ships, shouldn't this pretty much set the atmosphere on fire? This deep in the atmosphere, since those explosions aren't over the horizon, so they must be only a few dozen kilometers away... they shouldn't be piddly little blasts of fire, but gigantic fireballs as the multi-gigaton warheads turn the atmosphere to plasma for dozens of kilometers around. Each engine burns with the fury of a small star, not just small trails of plasma, but huge, huge plumes of fire, far larger than the ship itself, pushing the vessel ahead at such speeds the sky explodes as it passes. It's such a tremendous cataclysm of energy that it really doesn't compare... these things consume more power than the entire modern earth just to accelerate. A battle between 40k ships involves throwing weapons at each other that make nukes look like water balloons...

Also, clouds can be the size of mountains. These things are bigger.

There's a reason 40k ships don't go in atmosphere.
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, what an elaborate and thought-provoking comment! O_O
Thanks man!

To be honest, I haven't given it much thought as of yet, I mean it's 40k. If it isn't over the top, it wouldn't be 40k. And such oversized vessels are a fine example of this!
But for the sake of argument, your points are completely valid. However you have to take into account, that this speculation is based on Earth as basis. Many planets are however terraformed, as such the composition and size as such mustn't be alike. As such this world could in fact have the volume of Saturn and an atmosphere that reaches up much higher than it does here, so the effects would be significantly different. Considering the strategical necessity, using their engines as weapons could prove valuable as well, but their output would be reduced in normal flight within an atmosphere, as the distance to cover are much smaller than in space. And if you decide to fight there, you would take the enemy position into consideration - a falling vessel with several kilometers in length can turn out to be much more of a weapon than a bomb ;)

So, there's always a creative loophole for people like me, despite your reasonable and logical reason :D
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BaseDeltaZero Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
True, the planet could be the volume of Saturn... but, if it wasn't a gas giant, that's going to lead to a huge gravity, tens, hundreds of Gs... although I suppose it *could* be a gas giant, with the proceeding fighting happening on a Cloud City style (but Grimdarkified) platform. Though, it's not so much the *height* in the atmosphere that matters as far as drag/convection as its density, and a higher gravity world is going to have a correspondingly denser atmosphere (and a certain minimum density is necessary for clouds).

The problem with lowering the engines is that those things are heavy, and just producing the force to counteract the force of gravity, let alone go anywhere, is going to be problematic. I suppose you could move around sub-orbitally, but... those big ships really aren't meant to fly in air. Think about trying to turn it!

Of course, there is indeed always a creative loophole... hey, there's that one that GW loves... the image is rendered to look pretty. Flaws in scientific/canon accuracy are because it's a painting 'in-universe', not a photograph.

Unfortunately, realistic space battles are tricky to depict, given the distances/speeds that tend to be involved. 40k ship to ship accuracy is kinda terribad, as tends to happen when you drag your starship cannons into place with manual labor, so you *might* be able to see the enemy ship without zooming in... but... yeah. Normally, you'll be fighting from such distances that an outside observer wouldn't see much - certainly not the beautiful battles of massive ships coming up alongside each other age-of-sail style and just broadsiding the crap out of each other...
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
To be honest, I'm not an expert in astrophysics (which is kinda ironic, as most of my pictures take place in space^^), so I believe your argument here ;)

Maintaining height may be achieved by anti-grav technology, who knows how that works? But you're right, they're definitively not meant to be within the atmo. But here I decided to go for style, rather than logic.

Concerning range: that is completely true. The distances are enormous! In my stories I try to depict this aspect, but in my paintings I decide (yet again) to go for style, rather than substance. Thanks again for your thoughtful comment! Always a joy to read and think about :)
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Shadowkey392 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
Awesome!
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :)
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Ragnarok6664 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The hammer blows of the Empire :D Grand scene :clap:
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks man! :)
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ironsides11 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2012
Beautiful scene.
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :)
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squirrels-are-evil Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Out of all of them in your series, this one is my favorite
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Iīm Glad you think so! One of the next two will be more like this. But I wonīt give away too much (spoiler alert!) ;)
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masterofThardus Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Unleash all fury upon them! No mercy! No respite!
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Angels of Death strike upon the surface. The battle will be decided there! Not all hope is lost and the war rages on for evermore!
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masterofThardus Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Yes! Purge the alien and the heretic! Scorch the earth and all who stand upon it!
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Raazorfiend Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2011
nice one
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :)
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exocolumn Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011
Very nice!
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :)
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Talancir Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
wow.... this is beautiful!
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :)
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Talancir Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
although... you should have put a sillouette of some sort peeking out from behind or through the clouds. I think that would have completed the mystery of the attack.
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The "mystery" of the attack will be solved in the pictures to come ;)
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JSfantasy Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
wicked!!!
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I take that as a compliment! Ty! :)
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JSfantasy Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
well yeah ;P. love it!
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GeorgesConcepts Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
epic :D
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! :)
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GeorgesConcepts Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2011
no probs, just pointing out the truth :)
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:iconlordcastigator:
LordCastigator Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
Damn, awesome work! Definitely like...
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :)
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Skyward-Dreamer Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
Ha ha, oh right. Man, I had no idea this game will be this impressive the further I go. So far I've been stuck on the ground or in sewers. :) This is a great piece, the fires and engine exhausts look amazing.
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! Though, I havnīt played Space Marine yet :(
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Skyward-Dreamer Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Really? :D

In that case this piece is even more impressive. :) And sorry, I hope I didn't spoil too much for you.
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oo I hope you didnīt! I will get it for myself in christmas! It is so hard not to get spoilered >.<

And thanks again! :)
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Skyward-Dreamer Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
Great. :) Well I'm glad to hear that, I simply assumed you'd played the game when you made fan art ..

You're welcome. :)
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I played the tabletop-game and am still in love with the universe. And probably with the game as well, starting in one month about! :D
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Skyward-Dreamer Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
That's cool. :) I must say I'd never even heard of this until a couple of months ago. It's perhaps not my type of game exactly, but I'll still try and complete the campaign.
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LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, the 40k tabletop game exists since 1989. Itīs influence is bigger than you think. Starcraft and Warcraft are merely ripoffs from both warhammer universes. You would be surprised ;)
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AzraelSkyle Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
EPIC battle :D
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:iconlorddoomhammer:
LordDoomhammer Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :)
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AzraelSkyle Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
No Problem ^_^
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